i have no idea if this is right or even related, but believe it or not in my theory of art and design lecture they were talking about ancient assyrian and babylonian mythology. apparently they believed that the goddess of the oceans and chaotic watery abyss was a serpent called tiamat. she was killed by another supposed god who made the earth out of her body -mountains from her spines, rivers from her blood etc. he decided to create his kingdom on earth and called himself the king of babylon. perhaps refernces to the serpent and the king of babylon originate from here?
i really have no idea if this is related at all, but i thought cos in Isiah it refers to the king of babylon so perhaps…
well, on tuesday we were wondering how we knew that satan was once the angel of music in heaven and then though he was better than god and tried to overthrow him, but then he and the angels who followed him (about a third of all the angels in heaven?) were thrown out of heaven etc. – how do we know this? is it in the bible or is it just hearsay. the bible never refers to satan as lucifer, which is strangely a latin name – but perhaps as the king of babylon etc.
where have we taken all these ideas from?
17052010
flavourflave(09:39:09) :
Well at Bible study last Tuesday we were saying all kinds of things about Satan being a fallen angel and various other facts about him. Then we realised we weren’t sure where in the Bible we got those ideas, so now we’re trying to find out!
Very interesting questions guys, I’m still reading the first chapter but when I finish the book I will comment.
19052010
flavourflave(15:47:52) :
Before next Tuesday would be super
19052010
Kristina Kettleton(15:50:51) :
Deeemandiiiiingggggg!
But yes, we all await your reply Elise hehe
25052010
flavourflave(22:55:35) :
Well we still don’t have answers, so Tuesdarers next week our topic is “Angels and Demons” We will be chatting about what’s in the Bible, what’s not in there. So yeah be at my house on Tuesday
19042010
okpunk(15:10:20) :
Yo
We need some help.
If anyone is keeping up reading for the sermons every week can they let us know how they are breaking up the passages ie. How many verses you read each day??
Otherwise, I’ve found a 6 week reading plan of Luke
Just ignore the dates and go with the days per week.
If you want to do half of the verses per day in order to stretch it out a bit longer, that’d be cool.
Just make sure you’re keeping with the flow of the story – there’s no point stopping your reading after 10 verses when you’re only halfway through a speech of Jesus or he’s only halfway through healing someone.
Read a story section rather than a set number of verses.
Sometimes it may be shorter or longer.
yeah. Wow that’s a big thought. So you mean doing every single thing that Jesus calls us to do? Like caring for the poor and sharing our resources and loving each other? Yeah, I’m sure it would be exhausting but surely you’d also feel better?
I think this is fantastic, because judging on the few times I’ve seen Oprah, a year doing what she said would definitely change your life. It would leave you broke from buying an endless list of sappy books, malnourished from detox diets and unemployed because of your your commitment to daytime tv. That said following what Jesus says to do for a year would probably leave you in worse shape!
Lisa you’re right tt does sound like WWJD! I think it would be interesting to read the book and see what this woman did following what Oprah say to do I For me it is strange to think of following Oprah. I wonder what made her do it? An experiment or something else?
After last nights, small group comments on Oprah I was interested to see that a new book has come out where a person spends one whole year following all that oprah says to do. As someone put it “What would Oprah do?” doesn’t sound at all like WWJD?
Thanks to all of those who prayed for me=)
I got a room mate moving in this Friday and got a telesales part time job (training starts tomorrow).
Also have another interview for Good Shepher this friday so just wanted to show you guys how fast God works as long as you have faith!!!!
Happy bday to CALEB, ADAM AND MATT!!!!HOPE YOU ALL HAVE AN AWESOME YEAR AHEAD=)
Hello there.
Bet you didn’t know that big hot-shot celebrities like myself peruse this website on occasion.
The weather in Australia seems to be splendid for a spot of tennis. Bit of a different story for us England folk…
Righto you lot, tally-ho!
Yo
Since Sherwantha is out of the country for a few weeks if you need to contact someone for any personal or youth ministry issue please call me.
Thanks
Joel
Here you can see a photo of my mug and mo, and if’d you like, make an online donation to the Movember cause (http://au.movember.com/faq/), the donation link towards the right-hand side.
Comon Reds! Let see if we can raise more than our other Christ Church Dingley mo-bro Gordon Allison (http://au.movember.com/mospace/339662/), who I have to admit is sporting a rather grand mo!
Hello radical Jesus loving people=) (new quote from Jeds vision)
The Child Rescue FB sight is up to 220 members!
The new aim 400 by New Year 2010….. Please spread the word to non members.
I think we can make it I have asked a couple of FB addicts to post it up on their wall and hopefully their networks will join.
Remember-Psalm 1:24 Be strong and take heart, all you who hope in the LORD.
And in response to Joel and the grass growing not to worry soon it will be the reunion of the great Elise vs Adam team again=)
is a massively cool link and everyone should check it out and click the become a fan button on the page. The page was put together by our very own Sasha on behalf of the Red Vision Group. Going to this page will show you what the group is currently focusing on and becoming a fan will keep you up to date with the exciting news and events that the group will be bringing you.
hey hey matt!! how are ya? Do you need a hard copy of the pic or can i email it to you? I wont be at church till next sunday cause ill be at immerse! How good of a quaility does the pic need to be? Cause my cat always comes up really dark and fluffy! Just let me know! Take care <
I’ve been meaning to do some art for an open arts but don’t think I’d have the guts to put it on display :-S …though now that I’ve posted it on the website I guess I’ll have to.
Hey okpunk, or anyone else who has a good ear, I’m messin on my guitar and want to get the tabs to a song you play rather well at Church but I can’t think of the words, ahh. It’s fairly rocky and goes like dun-dunn-dundundundun-dun-dun-dundundundun…, any ideas?
Well actually all I need is a picture of your cat. I have an assignment for uni where I need to genotype a cat. Basically I need to look at it and figure out what it has inherited from it’s parents to make it look the way it does. If your interested bring a photo of your cat to church. You will be contributing to a Melbourne wide study on domestic cats plus I can give you the genotype of your and the study results once my research is finished.
Matt
P.S First one to bring one in will get in the study, but I’m happy to genotype everyone’s cat for some practice
Hey folks
Who likes photography, or maybe graphics, or even painting?
We’d love to see more of your creative stuff that reflects what God has been doing in your life: through your prayer times, through the Bible, or perhaps through little epiphanies throughout your day.
It’s all good!
If you would like to express the creative gifts God has given you and help our RED worship services please send through stuff to us!
Well done to everyone participated, supported and sponsored the 40 hour famine this year. Keep asking sponsors this week, especially anyone who asks how your weekend was! I will be collecting the books over the next two weeks So collect all your money and get them back to me asap!
P.S Make sure you keep praying for those who face famine every day without fooseball or space jam to get them through. Visit http://trans.worldvision.com.au/40hourfamine/storiesGFC.aspx
to read some stories of the people our community has helped this weekend.
Hey guys
For the next 2 weeks we have Arthur and Tamie Davis, from Ridley College and Christ Church Hawthorn, preaching at RED.
Thought you could check out some of the Davis’ blogs.
They’re tops and I rate them highly.
arthurandtamie.wordpress.com
Hey hey Dinley-ites! Saturday September 5th my youth group is having a trivia/ music/ dance fundraiser night. It costs $5 and its gonna be a rockin night. Jos’ band will be playing, amungst other guest stars. There might even be some stuff you can bid on, so please be in a generous mood! It’s at Dandenong Church of Christ: 139 David Street Dandneong at 7pm! Please come and help raise funds for kids from really broken families go on a camp where they have the opportunity to get to know Jesus!! Take care <
Just letting everyone know I’m representing Mr. ADAM CARNE for the 40 Hour Famine, he’s a cool fella and is looking to raise a fair bit of moola this year, to help those less fortuanate than us. And to do that he’ll need YOUR sponsorship!
If want to help him out and you know him, then you can speak to him directly, otherwise you can speak to me and I’ll fix ya up!
If you want any more info on this years famine and dunno who to turn to then I can point you in the right direction
Just a reminder that the first meeting of the World Vision group is on tomorrow. If you don’t really understand what it’s all about let curiosity lead you on a journey to my house, 13 Emery Drive Dingley Village at 3pm. All welcome!
Hi everyone,
remember the 8 to 8 last month? Well just saying thanks for everyone who came and shared the fun! The money raised (around $160) is going to tom morris and my missions funds for our Year 10 school mission trip in September to Palm island (queensland). go to http://www.reeftooutback.com/for more information.
Wow, Joel that video game article was pretty heavy. I think that video games really do have a negative affect on people.
There is a German guy on the Doulos that I live with and he admits that he was addicted to gaming but through reading an online testimony of another guy he came to know Christ!
I’m playing Unreal Tournament while here in Bangkok. But I’ve restricted my game play to only on Saturday when I’m off otherwise I know that it will be hard to stop playing.
Hope that the rock climbing and cooking goes well,
Praying for you guys
Don’t forget to make your entry for “No masters chef” this sunday.
Make a dessert from slave free (or as close to) ingredients and bring it along to Red Cafe! We will be following the official PPTT bake-off scoring system in which points are awarded for Popularity, Presentation, Taste and Texture.
*Note: Unlike TV’s masterchef no-one will be voted off church this week
Hey guys! I have a really great friend who was hit by a truck. He has a broken femur, tibia and fibular as well as fractured ribs and facial bones. They had to Cut open his stomach to get all the ashfault out and thats just the half of it. He’s been in there a week and he still isn’t awake! His name is Jacob Fry, so can you please please pray for him. He’s a great guy! Thanks Take care
Happy Birthday Adam (for tomorrow or today or whenever you read this!)
By my count you have about 14 hours of teenageness left, In this time please do some crazy teenage things, because before you know it your old like me and Heff!
Hey Pplz!!
RED United Beach Night on Fridaty 4th Feb. 5:30pm – 9ish @ Mordialloc Beach.
Bring money to buy your own dinner….
…Also bring swimming gear, sports equipment, chairs, FRIENDS etc. basically anything that’ll add to the night.
If any yuth need a lift, Pls let a leader know and we can arrange for you to be picked up and dropped off.
P.S. This event has been posted on Facebook, called ‘RED United Beach Night’
Thanx everyone. I hope u can come a make it an awesome night with the RED community.
Cheers,
Adam
Hey folks – check out the new ‘ROSTER’ tab/page for the RED Service Roster for Aug-Dec
Yo
For all young adults – check out the notice in upcoming events about reGenerate
Happy Birthday to Ben W for yesterday and Olly Morris today, I think!! Hope u had/will have a great day fellas!
Good on you for checking out and leaving a comment on this page Tom! Gonna miss you for LAser Skirmish man!!
I finally remembered to check this website, purely because I had my phone on me when Sherwantha reminded me at youth.
Where does Satan come from?
i have no idea if this is right or even related, but believe it or not in my theory of art and design lecture they were talking about ancient assyrian and babylonian mythology. apparently they believed that the goddess of the oceans and chaotic watery abyss was a serpent called tiamat. she was killed by another supposed god who made the earth out of her body -mountains from her spines, rivers from her blood etc. he decided to create his kingdom on earth and called himself the king of babylon. perhaps refernces to the serpent and the king of babylon originate from here?
i really have no idea if this is related at all, but i thought cos in Isiah it refers to the king of babylon so perhaps…
Woah, just a casual question there. Do you mean where does Satan live? Or what was his origin?
well, on tuesday we were wondering how we knew that satan was once the angel of music in heaven and then though he was better than god and tried to overthrow him, but then he and the angels who followed him (about a third of all the angels in heaven?) were thrown out of heaven etc. – how do we know this? is it in the bible or is it just hearsay. the bible never refers to satan as lucifer, which is strangely a latin name – but perhaps as the king of babylon etc.
where have we taken all these ideas from?
Well at Bible study last Tuesday we were saying all kinds of things about Satan being a fallen angel and various other facts about him. Then we realised we weren’t sure where in the Bible we got those ideas, so now we’re trying to find out!
Ask Elise – she’s got a book on it:)
Well Elise what do you reckon?
Very interesting questions guys, I’m still reading the first chapter but when I finish the book I will comment.
Before next Tuesday would be super
Deeemandiiiiingggggg!
hehe
But yes, we all await your reply Elise
Well we still don’t have answers, so Tuesdarers next week our topic is “Angels and Demons” We will be chatting about what’s in the Bible, what’s not in there. So yeah be at my house on Tuesday
Yo
We need some help.
If anyone is keeping up reading for the sermons every week can they let us know how they are breaking up the passages ie. How many verses you read each day??
Otherwise, I’ve found a 6 week reading plan of Luke
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BwwZO33M01p1YTNiZmI5NzAtYWQ3Mi00MjUxLWFmNmQtMzM3NTgzYzdlODk3&hl=en
Just ignore the dates and go with the days per week.
If you want to do half of the verses per day in order to stretch it out a bit longer, that’d be cool.
Just make sure you’re keeping with the flow of the story – there’s no point stopping your reading after 10 verses when you’re only halfway through a speech of Jesus or he’s only halfway through healing someone.
Read a story section rather than a set number of verses.
Sometimes it may be shorter or longer.
Joel
hey joel i was thinking maybe u could post links 2 a bible website each week with the passage that we have 2 read… just a thought =)
yeah. Wow that’s a big thought. So you mean doing every single thing that Jesus calls us to do? Like caring for the poor and sharing our resources and loving each other? Yeah, I’m sure it would be exhausting but surely you’d also feel better?
I think this is fantastic, because judging on the few times I’ve seen Oprah, a year doing what she said would definitely change your life. It would leave you broke from buying an endless list of sappy books, malnourished from detox diets and unemployed because of your your commitment to daytime tv. That said following what Jesus says to do for a year would probably leave you in worse shape!
Lisa you’re right tt does sound like WWJD! I think it would be interesting to read the book and see what this woman did following what Oprah say to do I For me it is strange to think of following Oprah. I wonder what made her do it? An experiment or something else?
After last nights, small group comments on Oprah I was interested to see that a new book has come out where a person spends one whole year following all that oprah says to do. As someone put it “What would Oprah do?” doesn’t sound at all like WWJD?
So pumped for small group tonight!
Also excited to discover the location of the ‘mystery’ room… ah the suspense is amazing!
SORRY just realised I read the wrong end!lol
shows how excited I am!
Thanks to all of those who prayed for me=)
I got a room mate moving in this Friday and got a telesales part time job (training starts tomorrow).
Also have another interview for Good Shepher this friday so just wanted to show you guys how fast God works as long as you have faith!!!!
Happy bday to CALEB, ADAM AND MATT!!!!HOPE YOU ALL HAVE AN AWESOME YEAR AHEAD=)
What are you guys reading at the moment?
I’m reading a book called ‘Why Left Behind Should be Left Behind’ by David Malcom Bennet.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=CwEVrq_LW60C&dq=why+left+behind+should+be+left+behind+Bennet&client=firefox-a&cd=1
ok so u wanted us 2 comment yea? well here i am commenting! =P
here is a link 2 a christian comedian on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rznrxeHEI&feature=PlayList&p=AE9A21C902C654CF&index=7
his name is tim hawkins and hes a really funny guy =D
Hello there.
Bet you didn’t know that big hot-shot celebrities like myself peruse this website on occasion.
The weather in Australia seems to be splendid for a spot of tennis. Bit of a different story for us England folk…
Righto you lot, tally-ho!
Sign up for a CONNECT group
This year at DARE we have two groups:
Matt and Miriam on Tuesdays (venue to be announced)
Joel and Elise at Bethel (day to be announced)
Sign up sheets will be in the foyer on Sunday night.
Thanks
Joel
Yo
Since Sherwantha is out of the country for a few weeks if you need to contact someone for any personal or youth ministry issue please call me.
Thanks
Joel
0402831174
okpunk@hotmail.com
Hey Guys/Gals, as promised (though later than I hoped) here is the link to my Movember page:
http://au.movember.com/mospace/430934/
Here you can see a photo of my mug and mo, and if’d you like, make an online donation to the Movember cause (http://au.movember.com/faq/), the donation link towards the right-hand side.
Comon Reds! Let see if we can raise more than our other Christ Church Dingley mo-bro Gordon Allison (http://au.movember.com/mospace/339662/), who I have to admit is sporting a rather grand mo!
Yo
CCD is on Google maps
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=christ%20church%20dingley&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
It’s too true Matt! It would be great if we could reach 200!!
Who would have thought that you could get so much of a list?? With a few love hearts, smiley faces and stars it suddenly makes so much more sense!
Let’s superimpose the Kingdom of God onto the world today!!
Hello radical Jesus loving people=) (new quote from Jeds vision)
The Child Rescue FB sight is up to 220 members!
The new aim 400 by New Year 2010….. Please spread the word to non members.
I think we can make it I have asked a couple of FB addicts to post it up on their wall and hopefully their networks will join.
Remember-Psalm 1:24 Be strong and take heart, all you who hope in the LORD.
And in response to Joel and the grass growing not to worry soon it will be the reunion of the great Elise vs Adam team again=)
Rumour has it that
http://www.facebook.com/pages/World-Vision-Child-Rescue/142194643595?ref=search&sid=100000256042099.1585074421..1
is a massively cool link and everyone should check it out and click the become a fan button on the page. The page was put together by our very own Sasha on behalf of the Red Vision Group. Going to this page will show you what the group is currently focusing on and becoming a fan will keep you up to date with the exciting news and events that the group will be bringing you.
so my grass is growing so fast I reckon it’ll be 30cm high in a week.
I guess this is what happens when we pray for rain:)
Can I Change my Patteren to a picture or another pattern? [:-3)
How do u get a smiley face?
Happy Birthday Dave Heffernan!! The Big 21! Although, it’s not that big, can’t really change the font size
hey hey matt!! how are ya? Do you need a hard copy of the pic or can i email it to you? I wont be at church till next sunday cause ill be at immerse!
How good of a quaility does the pic need to be? Cause my cat always comes up really dark and fluffy! Just let me know! Take care <
I’ve been meaning to do some art for an open arts but don’t think I’d have the guts to put it on display :-S …though now that I’ve posted it on the website I guess I’ll have to.
Hey okpunk, or anyone else who has a good ear, I’m messin on my guitar and want to get the tabs to a song you play rather well at Church but I can’t think of the words, ahh. It’s fairly rocky and goes like dun-dunn-dundundundun-dun-dun-dundundundun…, any ideas?
Yeh do it!
I don’t know the dun-dunn-dundundundun-dun-dun-dundundundun
song.
Can you hum some of its tune via wordpress comment?
Who has a cat they would like to donate?
Well actually all I need is a picture of your cat. I have an assignment for uni where I need to genotype a cat. Basically I need to look at it and figure out what it has inherited from it’s parents to make it look the way it does. If your interested bring a photo of your cat to church. You will be contributing to a Melbourne wide study on domestic cats plus I can give you the genotype of your and the study results once my research is finished.
Matt
P.S First one to bring one in will get in the study, but I’m happy to genotype everyone’s cat for some practice
Hey folks
Who likes photography, or maybe graphics, or even painting?
We’d love to see more of your creative stuff that reflects what God has been doing in your life: through your prayer times, through the Bible, or perhaps through little epiphanies throughout your day.
It’s all good!
If you would like to express the creative gifts God has given you and help our RED worship services please send through stuff to us!
Joel: okpunk@hotmail.com
Sherwantha: sherwantha@gmail.com
Hey hey!! Look up two comments and you can find all the info about Saturday night!!! Hope to see you all there! Take care, Foxtel <
Well done to everyone participated, supported and sponsored the 40 hour famine this year. Keep asking sponsors this week, especially anyone who asks how your weekend was! I will be collecting the books over the next two weeks So collect all your money and get them back to me asap!
P.S Make sure you keep praying for those who face famine every day without fooseball or space jam to get them through. Visit http://trans.worldvision.com.au/40hourfamine/storiesGFC.aspx
to read some stories of the people our community has helped this weekend.
Hey guys
For the next 2 weeks we have Arthur and Tamie Davis, from Ridley College and Christ Church Hawthorn, preaching at RED.
Thought you could check out some of the Davis’ blogs.
They’re tops and I rate them highly.
arthurandtamie.wordpress.com
Joel
Hey hey Dinley-ites! Saturday September 5th my youth group is having a trivia/ music/ dance fundraiser night. It costs $5 and its gonna be a rockin night. Jos’ band will be playing, amungst other guest stars. There might even be some stuff you can bid on, so please be in a generous mood! It’s at Dandenong Church of Christ: 139 David Street Dandneong at 7pm! Please come and help raise funds for kids from really broken families go on a camp where they have the opportunity to get to know Jesus!! Take care <
Hey-a Community Cats!
Just letting everyone know I’m representing Mr. ADAM CARNE for the 40 Hour Famine, he’s a cool fella and is looking to raise a fair bit of moola this year, to help those less fortuanate than us. And to do that he’ll need YOUR sponsorship!
If want to help him out and you know him, then you can speak to him directly, otherwise you can speak to me and I’ll fix ya up!
If you want any more info on this years famine and dunno who to turn to then I can point you in the right direction
Peace out Everybody
Heff
Just a reminder that the first meeting of the World Vision group is on tomorrow. If you don’t really understand what it’s all about let curiosity lead you on a journey to my house, 13 Emery Drive Dingley Village at 3pm. All welcome!
Hi everyone,
remember the 8 to 8 last month? Well just saying thanks for everyone who came and shared the fun! The money raised (around $160) is going to tom morris and my missions funds for our Year 10 school mission trip in September to Palm island (queensland). go to http://www.reeftooutback.com/for more information.
Yo
Well done to all those who cooked for the Fair Trade bake off
What talent we have!
Thanks Matt for organising the night – it was heaps fun!
Joel
Wow, Joel that video game article was pretty heavy. I think that video games really do have a negative affect on people.
There is a German guy on the Doulos that I live with and he admits that he was addicted to gaming but through reading an online testimony of another guy he came to know Christ!
I’m playing Unreal Tournament while here in Bangkok. But I’ve restricted my game play to only on Saturday when I’m off otherwise I know that it will be hard to stop playing.
Hope that the rock climbing and cooking goes well,
Praying for you guys
Hey everyone,
Don’t forget to make your entry for “No masters chef” this sunday.
Make a dessert from slave free (or as close to) ingredients and bring it along to Red Cafe! We will be following the official PPTT bake-off scoring system in which points are awarded for Popularity, Presentation, Taste and Texture.
*Note: Unlike TV’s masterchef no-one will be voted off church this week
Hey guys! I have a really great friend who was hit by a truck. He has a broken femur, tibia and fibular as well as fractured ribs and facial bones. They had to Cut open his stomach to get all the ashfault out and thats just the half of it. He’s been in there a week and he still isn’t awake! His name is Jacob Fry, so can you please please pray for him. He’s a great guy! Thanks Take care
Hey guys
Anyone who’s interested in computer games check out this article:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/826486/teen-killed-mum-over-video-game
Do you agree that gaming has a negative impact on people?
Happy Birthday Caleb and Adam!
Happy Birthday Adam (for tomorrow or today or whenever you read this!)
By my count you have about 14 hours of teenageness left, In this time please do some crazy teenage things, because before you know it your old like me and Heff!
Happy Birthday for last Sunday Caleb!!!
Matt Flavel (aka flavourflave) – Happy Birthday for yesterday!!! Hope you had an awesome day!!!